nVidia driver 81.93 fried my video card

Jim Henry · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Ginchy wrote:

> Did you actually get vga fail beeps?
>
> You dont mention beeps?
>
> You were pushing the pc by playing cod2 and it kept crashing then
> died...............I do hope it wasnt your cpu fan that wasnt qworking and
> its actually your cpu thats fried because if it was "just" the vga card then
> you would have got beeps!
>
> Maybe time to have a check inside and see if the cpu fan is orking ok?

I only got the one beep, and the system seems to be booting OK, but no
VGA output. When it first failed, it was in standby, and moving the
mouse woke it up. I could see the hard drive running. Just the display
did not come back. At first, I thought it was the display that had
failed, but powering it off and on showed the "No signal" message on the
display.

I had run COD2 for several weeks. I played with very few failures for
that time. It only seemed to crash when loading a new level. The crash
was a quick blue screen, then an automatic reboot. It would also crash
at the start if I had played earlier, but not rebooted. After a reboot,
it worked fine. That is why I suspected a software incompatibility with
the old drivers. As I said before, I've played Doom 3 and Half life 2
and FarCry for hours at a time with no problems, even at higher
resolutions.

The machine was also working just fine, after playing COD2. It was after
I left the room when it failed, and the machine was idle then. That
would have been the first time it would have gone to standby mode after
I had installed the new driver.

This is a machine from ABSPC.com that I bought it a little over two
years ago, when the Winfast A350 was state of the art. The machine has
been amazingly stable, other than these occasional COD2 crashes. It has
lots of fans, and doesn't get hot (just noisy).

I've ordered an MSI 6600GT from NewEgg.com or $180.00 and a $30.00
rebate. The benchmarks show it faster than what I currently have, and it
looks like it will be a good cheap card until I decide to upgrade the
rest of the system. Then, I'll switch to PCI-E.

Thanks for the comments.

Regards,
Jim

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Les Steel · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"johns" wrote in message @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It is well documented that the 6800s are not compatible with
> the nForce 3 chipset .. Amazing but true. That is the main
> screen stuttering failure of the 6800s, and there are plenty of
> articles about it on google.

Strangely enough, I have ran an AGP 6800GT since release date on a MSI
nforce 3 motherboard with an AMD sk754 3200+. Never experienced any problems
apart from going ott with overclocking at one point, still running the
6800GT except its now on the asrock dual sata2 with an opteron 144 o/c to
2.4Ghz (till I get round to changing the bios) and still nary a problem.

John Lewis · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 930

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:46:25 -0000, "Les Steel"
wrote:

>
>"johns" wrote in message
>@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> It is well documented that the 6800s are not compatible with
>> the nForce 3 chipset .. Amazing but true. That is the main
>> screen stuttering failure of the 6800s, and there are plenty of
>> articles about it on google.
>
>Strangely enough, I have ran an AGP 6800GT since release date on a MSI
>nforce 3 motherboard with an AMD sk754 3200+. Never experienced any problems
>apart from going ott with overclocking at one point, still running the
>6800GT except its now on the asrock dual sata2 with an opteron 144 o/c to
>2.4Ghz (till I get round to changing the bios) and still nary a problem.
>
>
>

Methinks that "johns" may be a troll from the ATi newsgroup.

John Lewis

johns · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 104

I'm a pro tech ... 1200 users on just one subnet. I'm right about this.

johns

johns · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 104

The last of the good AGP cards too. Lucky you did not get
into the FX mess. You would be singing a different song
about that.

johns

John Lewis · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 930

On 12 Jan 2006 10:28:14 -0800, "johns" wrote:

>The last of the good AGP cards too. Lucky you did not get
>into the FX mess. You would be singing a different song
>about that.
>
>johns
>

I have 2 FX5900 ( non-XT, BFG and eVGA) both working perfectly for the
past > 2 years. No fan-failures, no other problems. Of course, I do a
quick 5 minute spring-clean on my computers every six months or so.
What's yer beef......... Not compatible with SM2.0 ? Well, yer
marvelous ATi cards have not been compatible with SM3.0 until the
six-months-late X1xxx series.

John Lewis

Marni · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

HAHAHA

"Jim" wrote in message $Hd4.590@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> After several crashes with "Call of Duty 2", I decided to upgrade the
> video drivers. I downloaded the 81.98 version from Nvidia. I removed the
> old drivers, as they recommended. and booted in VGA mode. I installed the
> new driver, with no problems. Then I ran Call of Duty for a few minutes
> with no problems, and closed it down. I left the room for about 2 hours,
> and when I returned, there was the distinct smell of burned components. I
> thought to myself "This isn't good." The video card was completely dead.
> There was no output to the LCD monitor. I turned the monitor off, then on,
> and saw the "No Signal" message. I turned off the computer, and left it
> off for quite a while. Still, after turning it back on, there is no output
> to the monitor, even during the BIOS initialization. This card has worked
> flawlessly for two years. I'm convinced that the new drivers fried it.
> I've opened a problem with nVidia support, but I really don't expect any
> kind of response.
>
> I'm pretty mad, but I'm obviously going to need a new card. I haven't been
> in the market for a few years. What is the best reasonably priced card for
> a 4X AGP MB. I'm a pretty heavy gamer, so I'm interested in a high end
> (but reasonably priced) card.
>
> Thanks, and be warned.
>
> Regards,
> Jim

Jim Henry · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

Just to close out this story, I got the MSI 6600GT from NewEgg, and
installed it on Saturday. It came up with no problem, and the machine is
running fine. I used the driver packed with the card from MSI. I don't
see much difference between the old card, and the new one as far as
performance.

The new card did not resolve the problems with COD2. It doesn't blue
screen any more, but it does complain of DirectX errors at the same
point in loading levels. I had seen that error before the crashes, and
had upgraded DirectX to the latest level. That was when the blue screens
started appearing. I'm writing it off as another game released too soon.
I'll wait for a patch.

Thanks to all for their comments.

Regards,
Jim

Alton B. Wilson · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Jim Henry wrote:
> Just to close out this story, I got the MSI 6600GT from NewEgg, and
> installed it on Saturday. It came up with no problem, and the machine is
> running fine. I used the driver packed with the card from MSI. I don't
> see much difference between the old card, and the new one as far as
> performance.
>
> The new card did not resolve the problems with COD2. It doesn't blue
> screen any more, but it does complain of DirectX errors at the same
> point in loading levels. I had seen that error before the crashes, and
> had upgraded DirectX to the latest level. That was when the blue screens
> started appearing. I'm writing it off as another game released too soon.
> I'll wait for a patch.
>
> Thanks to all for their comments.
>
> Regards,
> Jim

Good choice on the card. I also just installed an MSI NX6600GT-VTD128SP
in my Dell last Sunday. It is running okay, I have not had time to make
any changes to the settings or install new drivers. What drivers are
you using? Have you done anything to the BIOS?

Alton

CraigTee · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Jim Wrote:
> (snip) I installed
> the new driver, with no problems (snip) I left the room for about
> 2 hours, and when I returned, there was the distinct smell of burned
> components (snip) This card has worked flawlessly for two years. I'm
> convinced that the new drivers fried it. I've opened a problem with
> nVidia support, but I really don't expect any kind of response. (and
> snip) Jim

and now, back to the original topic of this thread. Wink

I found this
thread through a search engine using the terms "fx5200, nvidia 81.89,
fried". That might offer an indication of my own situation. No... the
81.98's did not fry an FX5200... it fried TWO!

Ok... I'm new here... nobody knows me... so here's the stats:

1. 3D games installed.... well gosh.. NONE! Just a few turn based
strategy games. Anybody remember "Hack", an 80's text based game? Smile

2. Years in PCs..... too many to remember... mid 80's... pre
internet... Compuserve was the only game in town. PCs ran at a blazing
4.77MHz!
3. My usual response when somebody says, "X software fried my
hardware!!!"? "uh-huh..... yeah.... right...."
4. Diehard NVIDIA fan since the TNT days.
5. So... I'm not a troll, nor NVIDIA basher. I don't consider myself,
stupid, crazy nor totally uniformed (although I AM always learning!)

yet... here I am.... and I believe that this is real and repeatable
with as many FX5200's as YOU care to supply... me?... heck... for some
reason (thank you NVIDIA!) I'm fresh out!

Relavent Hardware (3 networked machines):
Tekram 440BX MBs, varying ram amounts, NVIDIA cards (FX5200 X2, TNT,
TNT2), WD drives, network cards, USR modems, SB sound cards. WinXP.
That about covers it.

NOW!!!!! Finally.... the recent history.

Asus FX5200 card in service for a few months, no problems, 2 or 3
driver updates. Updated to 81.98 and started getting intermiittant
boot failures with eventual permanent failure to boot XP. Would boot
in VGA mode (from XP's advanced alternative boot screen). Disabling
XP's "reboot after failure" resulted in a blue screen that said
"nv4_disp" has caused an infinite loop.

Ok... bad driver... right? Uninstalled 81.98, rebooted, reinstalled
the version I'd been running for a couple of months. No joy. Ok....
deleted NV*.* and gave it another shot. No joy. Ok... so maybe it's a
registry entry. Took a blank drive, installed XP on it with the
FX5200 in the machine. Install failure due to video card with XP's
generic NV4_disp.dll. Bummer... fried card.

But was it really the 81.98 drivers? Still couldn't believer that
properly installed NVIDIA drivers would actually trash an NVIDIA based
graphics card. So.... I yanked out an Asus FX5200 out of the closet
that I'd never used and stuck it into a different machine that was
already running the same card with the older drivers.

Card ran fine! Ran it through it's paces and torture tests with no
sweat. Upgraded to 81.98 drivers and trashed the card. Same blue boot
screen as on the first machine, same boot failures, same ability to boot
with no problems using VGA mode from XP's boot menu.

These cards lost their ability to run with ANY NVIDIA drivers! They
continue to operate using standard WinXP VGA drivers.

Ok.... that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Smile

Now... if I've
missed anything in this, please feel free to ask questions or share
your knowledge. Right now I'm afraid of both NVIDIA cards and driver
updates.

Thanks for reading,
CraigTee

--
CraigTee

mangyrat · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

i realy dont think its your video card's dieing due to a driver.
i would look at the power suply it may be dieing slowly and not be
provideing the power needed after it gets hot.

"CraigTee" wrote in message @hardwarebanter.com...
>
> Jim Wrote:
>> (snip) I installed
>> the new driver, with no problems (snip) I left the room for about
>> 2 hours, and when I returned, there was the distinct smell of burned
>> components (snip) This card has worked flawlessly for two years. I'm
>> convinced that the new drivers fried it. I've opened a problem with
>> nVidia support, but I really don't expect any kind of response. (and
>> snip) Jim
>
> and now, back to the original topic of this thread. Wink

I found this
> thread through a search engine using the terms "fx5200, nvidia 81.89,
> fried". That might offer an indication of my own situation. No... the
> 81.98's did not fry an FX5200... it fried TWO!
>
> Ok... I'm new here... nobody knows me... so here's the stats:
>
> 1. 3D games installed.... well gosh.. NONE! Just a few turn based
> strategy games. Anybody remember "Hack", an 80's text based game? Smile

> 2. Years in PCs..... too many to remember... mid 80's... pre
> internet... Compuserve was the only game in town. PCs ran at a blazing
> 4.77MHz!
> 3. My usual response when somebody says, "X software fried my
> hardware!!!"? "uh-huh..... yeah.... right...."
> 4. Diehard NVIDIA fan since the TNT days.
> 5. So... I'm not a troll, nor NVIDIA basher. I don't consider myself,
> stupid, crazy nor totally uniformed (although I AM always learning!)
>
> yet... here I am.... and I believe that this is real and repeatable
> with as many FX5200's as YOU care to supply... me?... heck... for some
> reason (thank you NVIDIA!) I'm fresh out!
>
> Relavent Hardware (3 networked machines):
> Tekram 440BX MBs, varying ram amounts, NVIDIA cards (FX5200 X2, TNT,
> TNT2), WD drives, network cards, USR modems, SB sound cards. WinXP.
> That about covers it.
>
> NOW!!!!! Finally.... the recent history.
>
> Asus FX5200 card in service for a few months, no problems, 2 or 3
> driver updates. Updated to 81.98 and started getting intermiittant
> boot failures with eventual permanent failure to boot XP. Would boot
> in VGA mode (from XP's advanced alternative boot screen). Disabling
> XP's "reboot after failure" resulted in a blue screen that said
> "nv4_disp" has caused an infinite loop.
>
> Ok... bad driver... right? Uninstalled 81.98, rebooted, reinstalled
> the version I'd been running for a couple of months. No joy. Ok....
> deleted NV*.* and gave it another shot. No joy. Ok... so maybe it's a
> registry entry. Took a blank drive, installed XP on it with the
> FX5200 in the machine. Install failure due to video card with XP's
> generic NV4_disp.dll. Bummer... fried card.
>
> But was it really the 81.98 drivers? Still couldn't believer that
> properly installed NVIDIA drivers would actually trash an NVIDIA based
> graphics card. So.... I yanked out an Asus FX5200 out of the closet
> that I'd never used and stuck it into a different machine that was
> already running the same card with the older drivers.
>
> Card ran fine! Ran it through it's paces and torture tests with no
> sweat. Upgraded to 81.98 drivers and trashed the card. Same blue boot
> screen as on the first machine, same boot failures, same ability to boot
> with no problems using VGA mode from XP's boot menu.
>
> These cards lost their ability to run with ANY NVIDIA drivers! They
> continue to operate using standard WinXP VGA drivers.
>
> Ok.... that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Smile

Now... if I've
> missed anything in this, please feel free to ask questions or share
> your knowledge. Right now I'm afraid of both NVIDIA cards and driver
> updates.
>
> Thanks for reading,
> CraigTee
>
>
> --
> CraigTee

inwiththenew · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

my geforce fx 5200 runs fine with the new drivers 81.93

"CraigTee" wrote in message@hardwarebanter.com...
>
> Jim Wrote:
> > (snip) I installed
> > the new driver, with no problems (snip) I left the room for about
> > 2 hours, and when I returned, there was the distinct smell of burned
> > components (snip) This card has worked flawlessly for two years. I'm
> > convinced that the new drivers fried it. I've opened a problem with
> > nVidia support, but I really don't expect any kind of response. (and
> > snip) Jim
>
> and now, back to the original topic of this thread. Wink

I found this
> thread through a search engine using the terms "fx5200, nvidia 81.89,
> fried". That might offer an indication of my own situation. No... the
> 81.98's did not fry an FX5200... it fried TWO!
>
> Ok... I'm new here... nobody knows me... so here's the stats:
>
> 1. 3D games installed.... well gosh.. NONE! Just a few turn based
> strategy games. Anybody remember "Hack", an 80's text based game? Smile

> 2. Years in PCs..... too many to remember... mid 80's... pre
> internet... Compuserve was the only game in town. PCs ran at a blazing
> 4.77MHz!
> 3. My usual response when somebody says, "X software fried my
> hardware!!!"? "uh-huh..... yeah.... right...."
> 4. Diehard NVIDIA fan since the TNT days.
> 5. So... I'm not a troll, nor NVIDIA basher. I don't consider myself,
> stupid, crazy nor totally uniformed (although I AM always learning!)
>
> yet... here I am.... and I believe that this is real and repeatable
> with as many FX5200's as YOU care to supply... me?... heck... for some
> reason (thank you NVIDIA!) I'm fresh out!
>
> Relavent Hardware (3 networked machines):
> Tekram 440BX MBs, varying ram amounts, NVIDIA cards (FX5200 X2, TNT,
> TNT2), WD drives, network cards, USR modems, SB sound cards. WinXP.
> That about covers it.
>
> NOW!!!!! Finally.... the recent history.
>
> Asus FX5200 card in service for a few months, no problems, 2 or 3
> driver updates. Updated to 81.98 and started getting intermiittant
> boot failures with eventual permanent failure to boot XP. Would boot
> in VGA mode (from XP's advanced alternative boot screen). Disabling
> XP's "reboot after failure" resulted in a blue screen that said
> "nv4_disp" has caused an infinite loop.
>
> Ok... bad driver... right? Uninstalled 81.98, rebooted, reinstalled
> the version I'd been running for a couple of months. No joy. Ok....
> deleted NV*.* and gave it another shot. No joy. Ok... so maybe it's a
> registry entry. Took a blank drive, installed XP on it with the
> FX5200 in the machine. Install failure due to video card with XP's
> generic NV4_disp.dll. Bummer... fried card.
>
> But was it really the 81.98 drivers? Still couldn't believer that
> properly installed NVIDIA drivers would actually trash an NVIDIA based
> graphics card. So.... I yanked out an Asus FX5200 out of the closet
> that I'd never used and stuck it into a different machine that was
> already running the same card with the older drivers.
>
> Card ran fine! Ran it through it's paces and torture tests with no
> sweat. Upgraded to 81.98 drivers and trashed the card. Same blue boot
> screen as on the first machine, same boot failures, same ability to boot
> with no problems using VGA mode from XP's boot menu.
>
> These cards lost their ability to run with ANY NVIDIA drivers! They
> continue to operate using standard WinXP VGA drivers.
>
> Ok.... that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Smile

Now... if I've
> missed anything in this, please feel free to ask questions or share
> your knowledge. Right now I'm afraid of both NVIDIA cards and driver
> updates.
>
> Thanks for reading,
> CraigTee
>
>
> --
> CraigTee