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Wonderman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

I was considering upgrading from an XFX 7600 GS 256 to this -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125083


FS X is a bit too choppy in the old card and I could use a boost in CAD as
well. Any thoughts appreciated. BTW I'm running a nearly silent Sony
desktop so fanless is really important.

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Wonderman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

I'd love to put one of those in but they all use fans. I've tried cards
that use fans and they all sound like Dustbusters on low speed.

Any ideas about fanless cards ?


"Augustus" wrote in message $w57.13704@edtnps90...
>
> "Wonderman" wrote in message
> $H05.3497@newsfe06.phx...
>>I was considering upgrading from an XFX 7600 GS 256 to this -
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125083
>>
>
> Bottom feeder for FS X 3D. A this 8800GS is twice the card for $60 more.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150275
>
> Better yet, why not just get a the real deal 256Mb 8800GT for $209
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125089
>
> or this 512Mb Galaxy 8800GT for $184 with rebate
> http://www.ncixus.com/products/27328/88YFF6HUFEXX/Galaxy%20Technology/
>
> I have one of the OC Galaxy 8800GT 512Mb cards and it's quality is right
> up there with the best. Excellent overclocker too.
>
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Mr.E Solved!



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

Wonderman wrote:
> I was considering upgrading from an XFX 7600 GS 256 to this -
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125083
>
>
> FS X is a bit too choppy in the old card and I could use a boost in CAD
> as well. Any thoughts appreciated. BTW I'm running a nearly silent
> Sony desktop so fanless is really important.

How about a fanless 512M 8800GT from ECS that costs only $215 (after rebate)

Thank you, NewEgg, and you are welcome Wonderman.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134035&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL020708&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL020708-_-VideoCards-_-L2B-_-14134035
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First of One



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

Careful. According to the user reviews, ECS did a poor job with the
packaging; the card often
comes through shipping with bent fins and broken plastic trim.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Mr.E Solved!" wrote in message@comcast.com...
> How about a fanless 512M 8800GT from ECS that costs only $215 (after
> rebate)
>
> Thank you, NewEgg, and you are welcome Wonderman.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134035&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL020708&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL020708-_-VideoCards-_-L2B-_-14134035
>
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Mr.E Solved!



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

First of One wrote:
> Careful. According to the user reviews, ECS did a poor job with the
> packaging; the card often
> comes through shipping with bent fins and broken plastic trim.
>

Oh noes! Possibly bent fins! Possibly broken plastic trim! I too read
the reviews from the newegg buyers.

You bend the fin(s) back in place if necessary and if the optional fans
or plastic bits arrived mashed, you get new ones if you plan on even
using them.

That was a stretch even for you, firsty you old sock, you old horse
thief, you old so-and-so.
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Paul



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

Wonderman wrote:
> I'd love to put one of those in but they all use fans. I've tried cards
> that use fans and they all sound like Dustbusters on low speed.
>
> Any ideas about fanless cards ?
>

Sparkle has a press release for a fanless one. The second link is a review.
Any time you buy a passive, be prepared to mount a fan next to it.

http://www.sparkle.com.tw/News/SP8800GTpassive/news_SP8800GT_passive_EN.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/489/1/

Paul
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Augustus



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

"Wonderman" wrote in message $H05.3497@newsfe06.phx...
>I was considering upgrading from an XFX 7600 GS 256 to this -
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125083
>

Bottom feeder for FS X 3D. A this 8800GS is twice the card for $60 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150275

Better yet, why not just get a the real deal 256Mb 8800GT for $209
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125089

or this 512Mb Galaxy 8800GT for $184 with rebate
http://www.ncixus.com/products/27328/88YFF6HUFEXX/Galaxy%20Technology/

I have one of the OC Galaxy 8800GT 512Mb cards and it's quality is right up
there with the best. Excellent overclocker too.
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Augustus



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

"Wonderman" wrote in message $n42.9474@newsfe08.phx...
> I'd love to put one of those in but they all use fans. I've tried cards
> that use fans and they all sound like Dustbusters on low speed.
>
> Any ideas about fanless cards ?

That Galaxy I pointed you at has a silent fan. It's not like the other
enclosed dustbuster 8800GT's.
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Wonderman



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

My vista score is currently a 4.3. Can anyone guess what an 8600GT score
would yield ?


"Wonderman" wrote in message $H05.3497@newsfe06.phx...
>I was considering upgrading from an XFX 7600 GS 256 to this -
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125083
>
>
> FS X is a bit too choppy in the old card and I could use a boost in CAD as
> well. Any thoughts appreciated. BTW I'm running a nearly silent Sony
> desktop so fanless is really important.
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First of One



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

There are a lot of things I *can* do to repair the card, but I *won't*
because I paid money for a new, defect-free product.

As for the horse thief part, well, I don't trust anything with less than 4
wheels and a motor. Unless you are talking about a certain first-person
slasher game made by Bethesda...

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

"Mr.E Solved!" wrote in message @comcast.com...
> Oh noes! Possibly bent fins! Possibly broken plastic trim! I too read the
> reviews from the newegg buyers.
>
> You bend the fin(s) back in place if necessary and if the optional fans or
> plastic bits arrived mashed, you get new ones if you plan on even using
> them.
>
> That was a stretch even for you, firsty you old sock, you old horse thief,
> you old so-and-so.
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Mr.E Solved!



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

Augustus wrote:

> Why don't you go out, buy it, then tell us all after ignoring all the
> constructive advice?

Hah! But that would mean he would have to face the sad reality that his
PC really isn't up to the task of running his flight sim the way he wants.

Face it Wonderman, if you want FSX to run better, you need a faster CPU.
as well, it's just how that goes. But, your Vaio can't take CPU upgrades
easily if at all, best guess.
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Wonderman



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

Geez... Whats the average age on this board ? 8 ?



"Augustus" wrote in message $FO1.14883@edtnps82...
>
> "Wonderman" wrote in message
> $n42.14795@newsfe08.phx...
>> My vista score is currently a 4.3. Can anyone guess what an 8600GT score
>> would yield ?
>
> Why don't you go out, buy it, then tell us all after ignoring all the
> constructive advice?
>
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Augustus



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

"Wonderman" wrote in message $n42.14795@newsfe08.phx...
> My vista score is currently a 4.3. Can anyone guess what an 8600GT score
> would yield ?

Why don't you go out, buy it, then tell us all after ignoring all the
constructive advice?
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Fishface



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

Augustus wrote:

> Why don't you go out, buy it, then tell us all after ignoring all the
> constructive advice?

LOL! That would truly be an incremental upgrade.
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Wonderman



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 8600GT Thoughts ? Reply with quote

Thank you for the perspective and info.

I'm running a 2.8 ghz Pentium D dual core with 2 gig ram and the 7600GS
card. The Windows Vista score is currently 4.3 and the resolution is 1650
x 1080. My sense of it ( despite the peanut gallery comments ) is that the
Gigabyte fanless 8600GT would be an improvement. Currently this system is
nearly silent and tremendously reliable.


"Fishface" wrote in message $kz3.5051@trndny03...
> Wonderman wrote:
>
>> Geez... Whats the average age on this board ? 8 ?
>
> Well there's an exaggeration, to be sure. I think it's more like fifteen.
>
> FS X is very CPU intensive. What are your system specs and at what
> resolution are you trying to run it?
>
> From this chart:
> http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=717&model2=855&chart=291
>
> ...you can see that the 8600GT would in fact be a decent upgrade in
> this specific case, and you can also see how CPU limited the game
> is, as the top GPUs don't perform significantly better at that resolution.
>
> Click on the chart bars to get the system specs. It seems they used
> an Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800, 2.93 GHz. I have read that better
> multithreading support has been added with the FS X Service Pack 1.
>

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